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Post by wasatchbill on Mon 25 Oct 2010, 3:05 pm

AF hit 65; that is boatable. Anyone looked at it today?
I am particularly interested in the upper section from Sawmill down half mile or so, since that looked relatively clean after last spring. alien
revised down to 53:
http://www.cbrfc.noaa.gov/station/flowplot/flowplot.cgi?afpu1

Sept 11, 2010, around 20 cfs according to the link above.
http://www.utrivers.com/gallery/Creek-n/AF-upper-middle-pic_47.htm


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Re: AF@65

Post by stuckinarut721 on Mon 25 Oct 2010, 6:17 pm

Tues AM AF run??? Also, any info about hazard wood, would be awesome... there was some this spring, but last I looked it was taken care of.
I would be game to put in pretty much any time before 10am, so let me know.

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Re: AF@65

Post by wasatchbill on Mon 25 Oct 2010, 8:20 pm

AF has endless wood hazard; it was never really cleaned after the spring floods moved hundreds of logs from the upper to lower AF. Even once its "clean" (boatable, which the lower AF cruxes are not right now), standard practice is to bank scout your whole run for wood before putting on.

Who is this? When did you look at it?

The gauge says it has dropped off as quick as it went up... but if it was clean, we could be ready to boat it with the next rainstorm alien

lower AF below Squiggles could probably be doable with the least amt of work. Sqiggles is below the UP&L building, after the river crosses under the road; if you bank scout you will see the nasty log jam.
Sept 11, 2010, Squiggles was not boatable:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=433800998686&set=a.433800008686.240734.626163686&pid=5206375&id=626163686

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Re: AF@65

Post by stuckinarut721 on Mon 25 Oct 2010, 9:07 pm

Hi, This is stu, from Park City. I ran the lower AF earlier this summer (April or June?) with a friend from PC and a really good, local, high school paddler who we met that day (forgot his name). we scouted the whole run and removed a little bit of wood from a couple of rapids, and tried to remove a river wide log from gun barrel rapid, but no dice. We took out above gun barrel where the pipes cross the river.
I have only been back in AF a few times with climber friends during the rest of the summer, and they got tired of me asking them to stop every hundred yards or so to check the river. I don't know what I was talking about above... Yep, that log jam in squiggles looked like death to me.
Sorry for any confusion.

On the topic of rivers that ARE runnable, do you think sixth water would be under snow?
Thanks
~Stu

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Post by wasatchbill on Mon 25 Oct 2010, 9:41 pm

Hey Stu-
Upper sixth water (Unborn Soul), that road is impassable when its raining, from what I hear; doubt there is much snow accumulation in there; as far as walking in and running it (if you could drive anywhere close without getting stuck; seems unlikely); will probably melt during the day; we have dragged boats in on a bit of snow and ice, its low water thats the problem; don't think rain will bring up the Unborn Soul drops much (could be wrong though, if it really poured up there)..
We just did lower 6th water, from 3 Forks Trailhead; boat hike 1.1 miles up to the 5th water bridge; we crossed the bridge and carried up another .2 miles, putin below an unmistakable riverwide boulder sieve; there is only one short portage below that (about .9 miles from the trailhead). It has some really fun sections; scout this for wood. I would love to catch this in a huge downpour like we had last night; the Syar gauge, for 6th water,
http://waterdata.usgs.gov/usa/nwis/uv?site_no=10149000
was up to 50 last night, and downstream below 5th water confluence I'd estimate maybe 80 cfs. I was guessing our first run yesterday was around 65, second run 70cfs. Still bumpy, in fact more bumpy in the first rock slalom rapid below the bridge than I expected; if you scout closely you can see the rocks in the center; right works better before the 90 degree left turn.

If you like AF, you will like Lower 6th water!! It is totally worth it, remote feeling; isolated from the trail in a redrock(sand) gorge at times; no cell phone reception btw; be safe.. I have full pads, elbow pads, shoulder pads.. we had a couple minor pins, and the occasional piton. This run and AF make me want a shorter boat (than a Jefe Grande).
Super-scenic place!

Celestial Gorge is still on my list too..


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Re: AF@65

Post by wasatchbill on Mon 25 Oct 2010, 10:13 pm

These all respond to rain:
Weber@gateway; 163 is too low in my book for any runs; ok for 24th street park; or Riverdale; maybe Eggs bend if you're desperate.
http://waterdata.usgs.gov/usa/nwis/uv?site_no=10136500

The Logan's Woodcamp and Town runs bumped up to "Low" on eddyflower.com; 190 cfs; this graph is 3 days; it was a 6 AM peak, at the mouth of the canyon, so this one was hard to catch:
http://waterdata.usgs.gov/nwis/uv?cb_00060=on&cb_00065=on&format=gif_default&period=3&site_no=10109000

AF: I would like to see 50 to 80 cfs in this.
http://www.cbrfc.noaa.gov/station/flowplot/flowplot.cgi?afpu1
I don't like that this never says "Observed". Prefer visuals..

Look at the Ferron bump:
http://waterdata.usgs.gov/usa/nwis/uv?site_no=09326500

I even saw a CO run bump (noticed on the CO page because it went to "Low"):
Crystal Gorge, 163 - 200 Low
http://waterdata.usgs.gov/usa/nwis/uv?site_no=09081600
http://www.eddyflower.com/RunDetailstabs.aspx?RunId=143

Did I mention Zion NP? NF Virgin bumped up, through the park, "Low";
http://waterdata.usgs.gov/nwis/uv?cb_00060=on&cb_00065=on&format=gif_default&period=3&site_no=09405500
3 bumps in 3 days down there, to 250ish..
that was a widespread rain event last night!


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Re: AF@65

Post by stuckinarut721 on Tue 26 Oct 2010, 11:35 pm

Thanks for all the information! I am thinking of checking out 6th water this weekend if the temps stay reasonable. I have an Ammo and i find it is awesome for a smaller paddler (me) in tighter places... and it surfs pretty well too! I had a great time in the boat down at the Riverdale wave this spring. The only thing that worries me are back to back burly holes, because the short hull length looses speed in those situations.
Thanks again
~Stu

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