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Recommended Boats and Trips

Post by cslebn on Sat 16 Apr 2011, 7:57 pm

Looking to add onto the kayak collection with an open boat for day tripping - overnighters. Been looking at doing boat and camp trips down a couple of the rivers. What's this community think the best boats and runs are for this sort of activity?

I've been thinking of going simple and getting a standard canoe (grumman, old town, etc) and using that to navigate class I-II waters.

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Re: Recommended Boats and Trips

Post by Flying_Spaghetti_Monster on Sat 16 Apr 2011, 9:37 pm

Oh man Jeff will be all over this one Smile
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Re: Recommended Boats and Trips

Post by Ron on Sat 16 Apr 2011, 11:02 pm

inflatables are cheaper, easier to haul, and fun.

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Re: Recommended Boats and Trips

Post by scotticus on Sun 17 Apr 2011, 11:13 am

You could try a Llama packraft, $800 w/o skirt, $1000 with skirt. I let you demo mine. They seem small, but I carried two weeks worth of winter gear and food with me on a solo trip down the Dirty Devil over Christmas. They are light and compact enough that I was willing to hitch-hike the 500 miles round trip. They have the same weight and less volume as a sleeping bag rolled up , plus I turn mine over and use it as a highly comfortable bed. I use an ultralight a-frame tent that it fits under when I'm sleeping in crappy weather. The break down paddle acts as the tent poles. This year Alpackarafts are making more whitewater worthy crafts, and break down trekking/skiing poles that will convert into a collapsable paddle. They can handle up to class IV. Their very maneaverable, but track poorly and are slow.

Feathercraft is making a packraft as well. They are a few pounds heavier and are a little longer, but they are self bailing with your choice of a skirt that seems more effective at keeping out the water than the Alpackas. They are more durable, but cost a few hundred more.
I will probly buy one of these self bailers next because the alpacka still seems to fill with water after running the BV crux, even with the spraydeck.

NRS and flytepacker also make packrafts. They are about $300 but are not for whitewater. But Flytepackers only weigh two pounds.


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Re: Recommended Boats and Trips

Post by Jeff Young on Sun 17 Apr 2011, 11:40 am

Paddling solo or tandem? How long a trip are you talking about? I would suggest to avoid the inflatables as you give away lots of performance when you pass on the hardshell. Right off the bat I'd suggest you look on KSL for a cheap ABS tandem canoe such as a Mad River Explorer or a Old Town Discovery 17.

Look here-
http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=231&cat=196&category=184

These are durable, reasonably good for class I-II and are easy to find for sale used. If you are seeking a true tandem whitewater boat that you can use for day tripping.. .check out the buzz for used quality reasonably local canoes-
http://www.mountainbuzz.com/swap/showcat.php?cat=22

I'd suggest, if you have any little craving to possibly run a bit harder water in your canoe to get a proper one. These are good tandem choices-

This one is set up and small enough for tandem or solo-
http://www.mountainbuzz.com/swap/showproduct.php?product=18384&title=mohawk-probe-14-tandem-2fsolo-whitewater-canoe&cat=22

This Mad River ME is a great whitewater tandem boat made from a durable glass layup, I've thought about getting this one but my girl paddles her own boat. Smile
http://www.mountainbuzz.com/swap/showproduct.php?product=17274&title=mad-river-2-person-whitewater-canoe&cat=22

For a solo canoe that is very fast (I used this model as a flatwater, downstream race OC1 back in the day) and handles a good amount of weight, look here for a local Wenonah Prism-
http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=218&ad=15022666&cat=196&lpid=6&search=

http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=218&ad=14949123&cat=196&lpid=8&search=

IF you are looking for a new boat, check out Esquif for all types of canoes and I can help get you what you want for a good price.

http://www.esquif.com/2008/canot_en.php
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Re: Recommended Boats and Trips

Post by cslebn on Sun 17 Apr 2011, 2:15 pm

Thanks for the responses. I've been watching KSL but nothing has jumped out at me or I haven't gotten to it fast enough.

Looking to do tandem + dog for 2-3 day trips (4?) with an emphasis on side hiking and camping. This was just supposed to be a side activity to kayaking whitewater that we could bring the dog along for and get hiking in.

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Re: Recommended Boats and Trips

Post by Flying_Spaghetti_Monster on Sun 17 Apr 2011, 5:00 pm

Get a raft or a Cat boat.
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